Next Star Trek series should be about?

[v***@yahoo.com]

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:20:51 -0700, Anim8rFSK

It wasn't "suits", it was Kevin Sorbo. "Mindless" is a good word
though. *

The question is, where did he get the power from? ....

I've never been convinced he was the power. He was the spokesman, but
that doens't mean he was actually making the decisions.

Well after Wolfe was gone, Sorbo's character became far less a leading
member of an ensemble cast and far more the person around whom the
entire local galactic cluster revolved.

.

It's the "Tribune Effect" - same thing that ruined Earth Final Conflict
after season 1. Heaven forbid they tell intelligent stories. No.
Better to fire the lead writer, and turn the show into Andromeda 90210
For Dummies.

.

At least EFC had the saving grace of season 4 (almost as good as season
1). Andromeda has no saving grace.

.

[Ken from Chicago]

Post by v***@yahoo.com

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:20:51 -0700, Anim8rFSK

It wasn't "suits", it was Kevin Sorbo. "Mindless" is a good word
though. *

The question is, where did he get the power from? ....

I've never been convinced he was the power. He was the spokesman, but
that doens't mean he was actually making the decisions.

Well after Wolfe was gone, Sorbo's character became far less a leading
member of an ensemble cast and far more the person around whom the
entire local galactic cluster revolved.

.
It's the "Tribune Effect" - same thing that ruined Earth Final Conflict
after season 1. Heaven forbid they tell intelligent stories. No.
Better to fire the lead writer, and turn the show into Andromeda 90210
For Dummies.
.
At least EFC had the saving grace of season 4 (almost as good as season
1). Andromeda has no saving grace.

MUTANT X, Viewers 0.

-- Ken from Chicago

[Seth and Sean Tiven]

Erasing all the damage done by Berman and Braga to the Star Trek
Universe?

[Killfile victim #847238]

Post by Seth and Sean Tiven
Erasing all the damage done by Berman and Braga to the Star Trek
Universe?

Kinda like a "Zero Hour" for Trek?

[Seth and Sean Tiven]

Group: alt.tv.andromeda Date: Sat, Aug 19, 2006, 5:58am (EDT-3) From:
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Seth and Sean Tiven wrote:
Erasing all the damage done by Berman and Braga to the Star Trek
Universe?

"Kinda like a "Zero Hour" for Trek?"

If you mean the DC comic book series about going back to the beginning
and restarting everything, you don't have to go ALL the way back to the
treknoverse's "big bang" to fix it. Kind of do what they did in the
Voyager ep "the year of hell" and selectively erase unwanted
"incursions" into history.

[Wayland]

Post by Seth and Sean Tiven
Erasing all the damage done by Berman and Braga to the Star Trek
Universe?

That would involve time travel. Would it be ethical to do so?


Wayland
...inquiring minds want to know.

[i***@rcn.com]

Don't know what it SHOULD be about, but I know what it WILL be about
(if it is ever made):

"THE SEARCH FOR MORE MONEY!"

[Rockboy]

It should be about 20 years away and not even considered yet.

[x***@y.zzz]

If they do come up with one, everyone who loves Klingons should pray
that it isn't the Klingon-centered series that so many fans have
rumored about through the years.

They introduced the Cardassians in TNG, anmd I thought they were going
to be a terrific replacement for the Klingons as antagonists for the
Federation. Then, in select TNG episodes and during DS9, they proceed
to give the Cardies weaknesses, show some doing "fifth-column" work
against their government, etc., taking the mystique out of them (in my
eyes, anyway).

They introduced the Borg as adversaries, and then weaken them with
"Hugh".

They focus on the Ferengi during DS9, and, since this is Trek, start
changing them from being very different until, at the end, they're on
their way to being proto-Feds in Ferengi costumes, and the costume
department may as well have added giant zippers to the Ferengis'
backs..

And the attention they gave the Klingons during DS9 ended up having
the Empire on its way toward falling apart, political corruption (and
even monetary greed, in one episode) replacing the warrior ethos in
some, and even (as Kor lamented) Klingons operating restaurants and
feeding the descendants of those he had fought.

As stated, this is Trek. The aliens are presented with ways, beliefs,
traditions, values, etc., different from the way the Trek execs think
we should be today, and then the shows do their usual social
engineering, one episode at a time, until the "undesirable" traits are
changed. And, of course, the things that make the Klingon way of life
what it is - expanding empire by aggression, fighting for fun,
enjoying combat, blood oaths, eating live food, etc. - are
"undesirable". So, any Klingon-specific show would, inexorably,
change them until, by the end of the show's run, they'd no longer be
the Klingons we love.

Enough damage has been done. Let the next series be about something
else, or let Trek fade away. But don't let the forces of political
correctness finish off the Klingons.

***@y.zzz

"Politicians are conniving, wheeler-dealing scum. Don't have a fit of morals over them;
they wouldn't, over you."
--Harry Pearce, "MI-5"

[Mark Nobles]

Post by x***@y.zzz
If they do come up with one, everyone who loves Klingons should pray
that it isn't the Klingon-centered series that so many fans have
rumored about through the years.
They introduced the Cardassians in TNG, anmd I thought they were going
to be a terrific replacement for the Klingons as antagonists for the
Federation. Then, in select TNG episodes and during DS9, they proceed
to give the Cardies weaknesses, show some doing "fifth-column" work
against their government, etc., taking the mystique out of them (in my
eyes, anyway).
They introduced the Borg as adversaries, and then weaken them with
"Hugh".
They focus on the Ferengi during DS9, and, since this is Trek, start
changing them from being very different until, at the end, they're on
their way to being proto-Feds in Ferengi costumes, and the costume
department may as well have added giant zippers to the Ferengis'
backs..
And the attention they gave the Klingons during DS9 ended up having
the Empire on its way toward falling apart, political corruption (and
even monetary greed, in one episode) replacing the warrior ethos in
some, and even (as Kor lamented) Klingons operating restaurants and
feeding the descendants of those he had fought.
As stated, this is Trek. The aliens are presented with ways, beliefs,
traditions, values, etc., different from the way the Trek execs think
we should be today, and then the shows do their usual social
engineering, one episode at a time, until the "undesirable" traits are
changed. And, of course, the things that make the Klingon way of life
what it is - expanding empire by aggression, fighting for fun,
enjoying combat, blood oaths, eating live food, etc. - are
"undesirable". So, any Klingon-specific show would, inexorably,
change them until, by the end of the show's run, they'd no longer be
the Klingons we love.
Enough damage has been done. Let the next series be about something
else, or let Trek fade away. But don't let the forces of political
correctness finish off the Klingons.

The problem is that developing the Klingons along the lines of what
they were in TOS would leave no way they could ever have survived as a
society, much less developed space travel. They would have killed
themselves off to extinction while they were still cave Klingons. Once
they developed trade and cooperation necessary for survival, they were
the weak race you deplore. Everything else is just gingerbread.