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[OT] The "genetically superior intellect", indeed!
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The Emmerdale Iron Man
2006-10-01 15:41:37 UTC
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I was thinking about something in wrath of Khan that has always bugged
me. When khan is monitoring kirk and spocks conversation between the
enterprise and the genesis cave, and spock is giving kirk repair time
estimates and says "If we go by the book captain, hours would seem like
days". Spock's inflection practically tells that they are talking in
code. He explains it to Kirk over the open channel, for christ's sake!
Kirk and Spock are always going on about what a genius khan is, and he
was supposed to be a big general/ ruler back on Earth. Couldn't he
figure out that Kirk and Spock would have some kind of protected
communication mode or code? Kind of obvious and short sighted for such a
"genius", don't you think?
MarkRRose
2006-10-01 16:16:42 UTC
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Post by The Emmerdale Iron Man
I was thinking about something in wrath of Khan that has always bugged
me. When khan is monitoring kirk and spocks conversation between the
enterprise and the genesis cave, and spock is giving kirk repair time
estimates and says "If we go by the book captain, hours would seem like
days". Spock's inflection practically tells that they are talking in
code. He explains it to Kirk over the open channel, for christ's sake!
Kirk and Spock are always going on about what a genius khan is, and he
was supposed to be a big general/ ruler back on Earth. Couldn't he
figure out that Kirk and Spock would have some kind of protected
communication mode or code? Kind of obvious and short sighted for such a
"genius", don't you think?
Well, Kirk did mention how Khan is intelligent, but inexperienced.

Mark
Bob Kolker
2006-10-01 17:33:34 UTC
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Post by MarkRRose
Post by The Emmerdale Iron Man
I was thinking about something in wrath of Khan that has always bugged
me. When khan is monitoring kirk and spocks conversation between the
enterprise and the genesis cave, and spock is giving kirk repair time
estimates and says "If we go by the book captain, hours would seem like
days". Spock's inflection practically tells that they are talking in
code. He explains it to Kirk over the open channel, for christ's sake!
Kirk and Spock are always going on about what a genius khan is, and he
was supposed to be a big general/ ruler back on Earth. Couldn't he
figure out that Kirk and Spock would have some kind of protected
communication mode or code? Kind of obvious and short sighted for such a
"genius", don't you think?
Well, Kirk did mention how Khan is intelligent, but inexperienced.
And worst of all, a flat-thinker. In the context of Star Fleet that is a
grevious insult. It leads to a phasor dual at ten paces.

Bob Kolker
whodunit
2006-10-04 04:43:35 UTC
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Post by MarkRRose
Post by The Emmerdale Iron Man
I was thinking about something in wrath of Khan that has always bugged
me. When khan is monitoring kirk and spocks conversation between the
enterprise and the genesis cave, and spock is giving kirk repair time
estimates and says "If we go by the book captain, hours would seem like
days". Spock's inflection practically tells that they are talking in
code. He explains it to Kirk over the open channel, for christ's sake!
Kirk and Spock are always going on about what a genius khan is, and he
was supposed to be a big general/ ruler back on Earth. Couldn't he
figure out that Kirk and Spock would have some kind of protected
communication mode or code? Kind of obvious and short sighted for such a
"genius", don't you think?
Well, Kirk did mention how Khan is intelligent, but inexperienced.
Mark
In the movie, Spock explained that Khan might be super-intelligent, but
he was also 2 dimensional. Kirk thinks on the 3-D level (and beyond),
that's why he always beats Spock at 3-D chess. ;-)
Bob Kolker
2006-10-04 15:35:40 UTC
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Post by whodunit
In the movie, Spock explained that Khan might be super-intelligent, but
he was also 2 dimensional. Kirk thinks on the 3-D level (and beyond),
that's why he always beats Spock at 3-D chess. ;-)
In the Star Trek world calling someone a Flat Thinker is grounds for
duelling with Phasors at ten paces. The Phasors are NOT set to stun.

Bob Kolker
Mary McK
2006-10-05 05:00:32 UTC
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Post by whodunit
Post by MarkRRose
Post by The Emmerdale Iron Man
I was thinking about something in wrath of Khan that has always bugged
me. When khan is monitoring kirk and spocks conversation between the
enterprise and the genesis cave, and spock is giving kirk repair time
estimates and says "If we go by the book captain, hours would seem like
days". Spock's inflection practically tells that they are talking in
code. He explains it to Kirk over the open channel, for christ's sake!
Kirk and Spock are always going on about what a genius khan is, and he
was supposed to be a big general/ ruler back on Earth. Couldn't he
figure out that Kirk and Spock would have some kind of protected
communication mode or code? Kind of obvious and short sighted for such a
"genius", don't you think?
Well, Kirk did mention how Khan is intelligent, but inexperienced.
Mark
In the movie, Spock explained that Khan might be super-intelligent, but
he was also 2 dimensional. Kirk thinks on the 3-D level (and beyond),
that's why he always beats Spock at 3-D chess. ;-)
Are you following me around the 'net!! LOL! I thought the whole 'Khan
was less than overly bright' thing in the movie might have been
explained away by his overwhelming obsession with getting revenge....so
much so that he lost track of almost everything else!


Mary McK
yep the same one you have known for years!
whodunit
2006-10-05 05:26:15 UTC
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Post by Mary McK
Post by whodunit
Post by MarkRRose
Post by The Emmerdale Iron Man
I was thinking about something in wrath of Khan that has always bugged
me. When khan is monitoring kirk and spocks conversation between the
enterprise and the genesis cave, and spock is giving kirk repair time
estimates and says "If we go by the book captain, hours would seem like
days". Spock's inflection practically tells that they are talking in
code. He explains it to Kirk over the open channel, for christ's sake!
Kirk and Spock are always going on about what a genius khan is, and he
was supposed to be a big general/ ruler back on Earth. Couldn't he
figure out that Kirk and Spock would have some kind of protected
communication mode or code? Kind of obvious and short sighted for such a
"genius", don't you think?
Well, Kirk did mention how Khan is intelligent, but inexperienced.
Mark
In the movie, Spock explained that Khan might be super-intelligent, but
he was also 2 dimensional. Kirk thinks on the 3-D level (and beyond),
that's why he always beats Spock at 3-D chess. ;-)
Are you following me around the 'net!! LOL! I thought the whole 'Khan
was less than overly bright' thing in the movie might have been
explained away by his overwhelming obsession with getting revenge....so
much so that he lost track of almost everything else!
Mary McK
yep the same one you have known for years!
LOL, Mary. ;-) How you doing, girl?
Actually, I just realized this was cross posted all over the place.

Khan was still a genius, despite his obsession with Kirk et al--
I think Spock hit the nail on the head though. Khan couldn't think
'outside the box', while Jim is an expert at it...that's why he cheated
death for so long. :-)

Carolyne in TX
The other Eric
2006-10-01 19:57:56 UTC
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Post by The Emmerdale Iron Man
I was thinking about something in wrath of Khan that has always bugged
me. When khan is monitoring kirk and spocks conversation between the
enterprise and the genesis cave, and spock is giving kirk repair time
estimates and says "If we go by the book captain, hours would seem like
days". Spock's inflection practically tells that they are talking in
code. He explains it to Kirk over the open channel, for christ's sake!
Kirk and Spock are always going on about what a genius khan is, and he
was supposed to be a big general/ ruler back on Earth. Couldn't he
figure out that Kirk and Spock would have some kind of protected
communication mode or code? Kind of obvious and short sighted for such a
"genius", don't you think?
It's a shame there are no star trek groups where you could post this.
John Baker
2006-10-02 03:12:33 UTC
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Post by The Emmerdale Iron Man
I was thinking about something in wrath of Khan that has always bugged
me. When khan is monitoring kirk and spocks conversation between the
enterprise and the genesis cave, and spock is giving kirk repair time
estimates and says "If we go by the book captain, hours would seem like
days". Spock's inflection practically tells that they are talking in
code. He explains it to Kirk over the open channel, for christ's sake!
Kirk and Spock are always going on about what a genius khan is, and he
was supposed to be a big general/ ruler back on Earth. Couldn't he
figure out that Kirk and Spock would have some kind of protected
communication mode or code? Kind of obvious and short sighted for such a
"genius", don't you think?
Remember Khan ruled Earth in a time when we were barely space-capable,
much less having a Starfleet with a rule book and so forth. Yeah, he
could have made the assumption easily, but it just didn't occur to him -
especially in mind of the glee he was feeling at (a) having just nicked
the Genesis device and (b) having just buried Kirk under a couple of
miles of dirt and rock. Or so he thought.
Jette Goldie
2006-10-02 16:29:47 UTC
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Post by John Baker
Post by The Emmerdale Iron Man
I was thinking about something in wrath of Khan that has always bugged
me. When khan is monitoring kirk and spocks conversation between the
enterprise and the genesis cave, and spock is giving kirk repair time
estimates and says "If we go by the book captain, hours would seem like
days". Spock's inflection practically tells that they are talking in
code. He explains it to Kirk over the open channel, for christ's sake!
Kirk and Spock are always going on about what a genius khan is, and he
was supposed to be a big general/ ruler back on Earth. Couldn't he
figure out that Kirk and Spock would have some kind of protected
communication mode or code? Kind of obvious and short sighted for such a
"genius", don't you think?
Remember Khan ruled Earth in a time when we were barely space-capable,
much less having a Starfleet with a rule book and so forth. Yeah, he
could have made the assumption easily, but it just didn't occur to him -
especially in mind of the glee he was feeling at (a) having just nicked
the Genesis device and (b) having just buried Kirk under a couple of
miles of dirt and rock. Or so he thought.
He was also expecting codes to be much more complex.
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Exhibitionist
2006-10-03 01:21:31 UTC
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On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:29:47 GMT, "Jette Goldie"
Post by Jette Goldie
Post by John Baker
Post by The Emmerdale Iron Man
I was thinking about something in wrath of Khan that has always bugged
me. When khan is monitoring kirk and spocks conversation between the
enterprise and the genesis cave, and spock is giving kirk repair time
estimates and says "If we go by the book captain, hours would seem like
days". Spock's inflection practically tells that they are talking in
code. He explains it to Kirk over the open channel, for christ's sake!
Kirk and Spock are always going on about what a genius khan is, and he
was supposed to be a big general/ ruler back on Earth. Couldn't he
figure out that Kirk and Spock would have some kind of protected
communication mode or code? Kind of obvious and short sighted for such a
"genius", don't you think?
Remember Khan ruled Earth in a time when we were barely space-capable,
much less having a Starfleet with a rule book and so forth. Yeah, he
could have made the assumption easily, but it just didn't occur to him -
especially in mind of the glee he was feeling at (a) having just nicked
the Genesis device and (b) having just buried Kirk under a couple of
miles of dirt and rock. Or so he thought.
He was also expecting codes to be much more complex.
Now that's a *brilliant* argument: if you're smart, you can't
understand the blatantly obvious. I don't think YOU will be ruling
the world.
s***@freenet.co.uk
2006-10-03 08:35:59 UTC
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Post by Exhibitionist
Now that's a *brilliant* argument: if you're smart, you can't
understand the blatantly obvious. I don't think YOU will be ruling
the world.
Tell that to the asgard.
We helped them on the replicator problem numerous times because they
couldn't think down to our level.
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Billy No Mates
2006-10-03 12:55:10 UTC
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Post by Exhibitionist
Now that's a *brilliant* argument: if you're smart, you can't
understand the blatantly obvious. I don't think YOU will be ruling
the world.
Tell that to the asgard.
We helped them on the replicator problem numerous times because they
couldn't think down to our level.
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That idea is nothing new. Take someone from the city, used to Pizza delivery
boys, mobile phones and the Internet and stick em in the wild for a few
weeks along with some tribesman from the wild. The local tribesman with his
wooden pole or bow and arrow will quite happily make use of the land to get
food, water shelter and weapons. The city dweller will struggle. It's about
lost skills. The Asgard had lost the skill of physical fighting and thinking
outside of the box. Their bodies were no more than a vessel for their minds.

In effect it showed that the "old ways" and the "new ways" actually
complement each other. Although I did like the Jack O'Neill way of talking
to them :-)
Exhibitionist
2006-10-03 21:53:52 UTC
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Post by Exhibitionist
Now that's a *brilliant* argument: if you're smart, you can't
understand the blatantly obvious. I don't think YOU will be ruling
the world.
Tell that to the asgard.
We helped them on the replicator problem numerous times because they
couldn't think down to our level.
Here's a hint: the asgard are fictional.
s***@freenet.co.uk
2006-10-03 22:08:56 UTC
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Post by s***@freenet.co.uk
Post by Exhibitionist
Now that's a *brilliant* argument: if you're smart, you can't
understand the blatantly obvious. I don't think YOU will be ruling
the world.
Tell that to the asgard.
We helped them on the replicator problem numerous times because they
couldn't think down to our level.
Here's a hint: the asgard are fictional.
LIAR!
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Billy No Mates
2006-10-03 23:17:12 UTC
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Post by s***@freenet.co.uk
Post by Exhibitionist
Now that's a *brilliant* argument: if you're smart, you can't
understand the blatantly obvious. I don't think YOU will be ruling
the world.
Tell that to the asgard.
We helped them on the replicator problem numerous times because they
couldn't think down to our level.
Here's a hint: the asgard are fictional.
How do you know? Roswell was real you know !!!
Ron
2006-10-05 06:58:14 UTC
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Post by Exhibitionist
Post by s***@freenet.co.uk
Post by Exhibitionist
Now that's a *brilliant* argument: if you're smart, you can't
understand the blatantly obvious. I don't think YOU will be ruling
the world.
Tell that to the asgard.
We helped them on the replicator problem numerous times because they
couldn't think down to our level.
Here's a hint: the asgard are fictional.
So are Kirk, Spock, and Khan. Why are you in this discussion?

Ron
James Craine
2006-10-19 02:38:53 UTC
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Post by John Baker
Post by The Emmerdale Iron Man
I was thinking about something in wrath of Khan that has always bugged
me. When khan is monitoring kirk and spocks conversation between the
enterprise and the genesis cave, and spock is giving kirk repair time
estimates and says "If we go by the book captain, hours would seem like
days". Spock's inflection practically tells that they are talking in
code. He explains it to Kirk over the open channel, for christ's sake!
Kirk and Spock are always going on about what a genius khan is, and he
was supposed to be a big general/ ruler back on Earth. Couldn't he
figure out that Kirk and Spock would have some kind of protected
communication mode or code? Kind of obvious and short sighted for such a
"genius", don't you think?
Remember Khan ruled Earth in a time when we were barely space-capable,
much less having a Starfleet with a rule book and so forth. Yeah, he
could have made the assumption easily, but it just didn't occur to him -
especially in mind of the glee he was feeling at (a) having just nicked
the Genesis device and (b) having just buried Kirk under a couple of
miles of dirt and rock. Or so he thought.
So why didn't we see him in 'Enterprise'?
whodunit
2006-10-19 03:37:38 UTC
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Post by James Craine
Post by John Baker
Post by The Emmerdale Iron Man
I was thinking about something in wrath of Khan that has always bugged
me. When khan is monitoring kirk and spocks conversation between the
enterprise and the genesis cave, and spock is giving kirk repair time
estimates and says "If we go by the book captain, hours would seem like
days". Spock's inflection practically tells that they are talking in
code. He explains it to Kirk over the open channel, for christ's sake!
Kirk and Spock are always going on about what a genius khan is, and he
was supposed to be a big general/ ruler back on Earth. Couldn't he
figure out that Kirk and Spock would have some kind of protected
communication mode or code? Kind of obvious and short sighted for such a
"genius", don't you think?
Remember Khan ruled Earth in a time when we were barely space-capable,
much less having a Starfleet with a rule book and so forth. Yeah, he
could have made the assumption easily, but it just didn't occur to him
- especially in mind of the glee he was feeling at (a) having just
nicked the Genesis device and (b) having just buried Kirk under a
couple of miles of dirt and rock. Or so he thought.
So why didn't we see him in 'Enterprise'?
IIRC, the Botany Bay was launched in 1996, or 1999--many years before
Enterprise is set.
EvilBill
2006-10-19 12:15:52 UTC
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Post by whodunit
Post by James Craine
Post by John Baker
Post by The Emmerdale Iron Man
I was thinking about something in wrath of Khan that has always
bugged me. When khan is monitoring kirk and spocks conversation
between the enterprise and the genesis cave, and spock is giving
kirk repair time estimates and says "If we go by the book captain,
hours would seem like days". Spock's inflection practically tells
that they are talking in code. He explains it to Kirk over the
open channel, for christ's sake! Kirk and Spock are always going
on about what a genius khan is, and he was supposed to be a big
general/ ruler back on Earth. Couldn't he figure out that Kirk and
Spock would have some kind of protected communication mode or
code? Kind of obvious and short sighted for such a "genius", don't
you think?
Remember Khan ruled Earth in a time when we were barely
space-capable, much less having a Starfleet with a rule book and so
forth. Yeah, he could have made the assumption easily, but it just
didn't occur to him - especially in mind of the glee he was feeling
at (a) having just nicked the Genesis device and (b) having just
buried Kirk under a couple of miles of dirt and rock. Or so he
thought.
So why didn't we see him in 'Enterprise'?
IIRC, the Botany Bay was launched in 1996, or 1999--many years before
Enterprise is set.
1996, yeah - he states that to Chekov and Terrell early in the movie. (Oddly
enough, he then contradicts himself by saying '200 years ago' which would've
meant 2085, but we can assume it was a slip of the tongue <g>)
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2006-10-19 12:24:21 UTC
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1996, yeah - he states that to Chekov and Terrell early in the movie. (Oddly
enough, he then contradicts himself by saying '200 years ago' which would've
meant 2085, but we can assume it was a slip of the tongue <g>)
Or more likely, they keep updating the timeline away from trek original
series to keep things more realistic.
:)
After all, we've not had the nuclear war they predicted either. The eugenics
wars are nowhere to be seen, and cochrane's not going to be able to invent
warp drive in... whatever year he originally invented it.
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EvilBill
2006-10-19 13:05:49 UTC
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Post by EvilBill
1996, yeah - he states that to Chekov and Terrell early in the
movie. (Oddly enough, he then contradicts himself by saying '200
years ago' which would've meant 2085, but we can assume it was a
slip of the tongue <g>)
Or more likely, they keep updating the timeline away from trek
original series to keep things more realistic.
:)
After all, we've not had the nuclear war they predicted either.
That's not supposed to happen till 2053, but given the current global
political situation, I'd say it's closer than that. <g>
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The
eugenics wars are nowhere to be seen,
Supposedly happened somewhat 'behind the scenes', so it could have been a
secret war. LOL
Post by s***@freenet.co.uk
and cochrane's not going to be
able to invent warp drive in... whatever year he originally invented
it.
2063? Well, he still might, after all he's not supposed to be born until
2030 ;)
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Tony
2006-10-20 23:08:18 UTC
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Post by s***@freenet.co.uk
Post by EvilBill
1996, yeah - he states that to Chekov and Terrell early in the
movie. (Oddly enough, he then contradicts himself by saying '200
years ago' which would've meant 2085, but we can assume it was a
slip of the tongue <g>)
Or more likely, they keep updating the timeline away from trek
original series to keep things more realistic.
:)
After all, we've not had the nuclear war they predicted either.
That's not supposed to happen till 2053, but given the current global
political situation, I'd say it's closer than that. <g>
Post by s***@freenet.co.uk
The
eugenics wars are nowhere to be seen,
Supposedly happened somewhat 'behind the scenes', so it could have been a
secret war. LOL
Post by s***@freenet.co.uk
and cochrane's not going to be
able to invent warp drive in... whatever year he originally invented
it.
2063? Well, he still might, after all he's not supposed to be born until
2030 ;)
Didn't Voyager's little trip to Earth's past in the mid to late 90's
kind of skew things a bit on the timeline with the introduction of
futuristic technology? I know the Star Fleet Time Cops were involved in
that episode as well - hmmm - foreshadowing of the temporal stuff in
Enterprise??????
s***@freenet.co.uk
2006-10-20 23:30:44 UTC
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Post by Tony
Didn't Voyager's little trip to Earth's past in the mid to late 90's
kind of skew things a bit on the timeline with the introduction of
futuristic technology? I know the Star Fleet Time Cops were involved in
that episode as well - hmmm - foreshadowing of the temporal stuff in
Enterprise??????
I really doubt the trek writers had the foresight to do forshadowing for
something so far off. More likely the berman used the time cops thing from
voyager as an afterthought. The whole temporal cold war bull was what ruined
enterprise from the start, only once they'd eradicated that story from
history did it improve.
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Kevin
2006-10-02 03:49:45 UTC
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Post by The Emmerdale Iron Man
I was thinking about something in wrath of Khan that has always bugged
me. When khan is monitoring kirk and spocks conversation between the
enterprise and the genesis cave, and spock is giving kirk repair time
estimates and says "If we go by the book captain, hours would seem like
days". Spock's inflection practically tells that they are talking in
code. He explains it to Kirk over the open channel, for christ's sake!
Kirk and Spock are always going on about what a genius khan is, and he
was supposed to be a big general/ ruler back on Earth. Couldn't he
figure out that Kirk and Spock would have some kind of protected
communication mode or code? Kind of obvious and short sighted for such a
"genius", don't you think?
Not really. Considering this is how the script was written. Bad guy makes
bad decisions, good guy makes good decisions. Good guy wins. That's a
wrap, people!
Tim McGaughy
2006-10-02 03:52:42 UTC
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Post by The Emmerdale Iron Man
I was thinking about something in wrath of Khan that has always bugged
me. When khan is monitoring kirk and spocks conversation between the
enterprise and the genesis cave, and spock is giving kirk repair time
estimates and says "If we go by the book captain, hours would seem like
days". Spock's inflection practically tells that they are talking in
code. He explains it to Kirk over the open channel, for christ's sake!
Kirk and Spock are always going on about what a genius khan is, and he
was supposed to be a big general/ ruler back on Earth. Couldn't he
figure out that Kirk and Spock would have some kind of protected
communication mode or code? Kind of obvious and short sighted for such a
"genius", don't you think?
The writer was an idiot.
The other Eric
2006-10-02 04:31:53 UTC
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Post by Tim McGaughy
Post by The Emmerdale Iron Man
I was thinking about something in wrath of Khan that has always bugged
me. When khan is monitoring kirk and spocks conversation between the
enterprise and the genesis cave, and spock is giving kirk repair time
estimates and says "If we go by the book captain, hours would seem like
days". Spock's inflection practically tells that they are talking in
code. He explains it to Kirk over the open channel, for christ's sake!
Kirk and Spock are always going on about what a genius khan is, and he
was supposed to be a big general/ ruler back on Earth. Couldn't he
figure out that Kirk and Spock would have some kind of protected
communication mode or code? Kind of obvious and short sighted for such a
"genius", don't you think?
The writer was an idiot.
Or the writer's boss was worried that some of the viewers wouldn't get
it.
Stephen Fairchild
2006-10-02 05:42:50 UTC
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Post by Tim McGaughy
Post by The Emmerdale Iron Man
I was thinking about something in wrath of Khan that has always bugged
me. When khan is monitoring kirk and spocks conversation between the
enterprise and the genesis cave, and spock is giving kirk repair time
estimates and says "If we go by the book captain, hours would seem like
days". Spock's inflection practically tells that they are talking in
code. He explains it to Kirk over the open channel, for christ's sake!
Kirk and Spock are always going on about what a genius khan is, and he
was supposed to be a big general/ ruler back on Earth. Couldn't he
figure out that Kirk and Spock would have some kind of protected
communication mode or code? Kind of obvious and short sighted for such
a "genius", don't you think?
The writer was an idiot.
Or the writer's boss was worried that some of the viewers wouldn't get
it.
So they had the Vulcan chick go all dumb blonde so she and the viewers could
have what just happened explained to them.
--
Stephen Fairchild
Exhibitionist
2006-10-02 04:54:07 UTC
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Post by The Emmerdale Iron Man
I was thinking about something in wrath of Khan that has always bugged
me. When khan is monitoring kirk and spocks conversation between the
enterprise and the genesis cave, and spock is giving kirk repair time
estimates and says "If we go by the book captain, hours would seem like
days". Spock's inflection practically tells that they are talking in
code. He explains it to Kirk over the open channel, for christ's sake!
Kirk and Spock are always going on about what a genius khan is, and he
was supposed to be a big general/ ruler back on Earth. Couldn't he
figure out that Kirk and Spock would have some kind of protected
communication mode or code? Kind of obvious and short sighted for such a
"genius", don't you think?
Genius enough to know that the average movie viewer is barely above
drooling on himself, so it has to be obvious.
xKCBEx
2006-10-04 07:23:04 UTC
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Post by The Emmerdale Iron Man
I was thinking about something in wrath of Khan that has always bugged
me. When khan is monitoring kirk and spocks conversation between the
enterprise and the genesis cave, and spock is giving kirk repair time
estimates and says "If we go by the book captain, hours would seem like
days". Spock's inflection practically tells that they are talking in
code. He explains it to Kirk over the open channel, for christ's sake!
Kirk and Spock are always going on about what a genius khan is, and he
was supposed to be a big general/ ruler back on Earth. Couldn't he
figure out that Kirk and Spock would have some kind of protected
communication mode or code? Kind of obvious and short sighted for such a
"genius", don't you think?
I don't know, the look on Khan's face suggests something, doncha think?
to bad the time compression thing is playing heck, and maybe Khan knew
and wanted a challenge, wouldn't that fit his character?
James Craine
2006-10-19 02:38:51 UTC
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Post by The Emmerdale Iron Man
I was thinking about something in wrath of Khan that has always bugged
me. When khan is monitoring kirk and spocks conversation between the
enterprise and the genesis cave, and spock is giving kirk repair time
estimates and says "If we go by the book captain, hours would seem like
days". Spock's inflection practically tells that they are talking in
code. He explains it to Kirk over the open channel, for christ's sake!
Kirk and Spock are always going on about what a genius khan is, and he
was supposed to be a big general/ ruler back on Earth. Couldn't he
figure out that Kirk and Spock would have some kind of protected
communication mode or code? Kind of obvious and short sighted for such a
"genius", don't you think?
Yes, I got it too. They had to tell us that Kahn had
genetically enhanced intelligence because otherwise we would
never have figured it out.
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