What have I missed?

[Mike Meyer]

I pretty much quit watching TV in high school, and started watching
again recently due to a slump in high-tech contracting causing me to
need cheap entertainment. I found there were some pretty good
speculative fiction shows - much better than most of what I remembered
from the 60s and 70s - in reruns, and some currently airing.

Now I find myself in a place with a definite lack of channels - and
hence reruns. So I've started using netflix and torrents to find these
things.

Which leads to my question - what have I missed? What good speculative
fiction has been made since ST:TOS, and is currently available either
on DVD or via torrent? A short description and a note on where to find
it would be appreciated as well. Come to think of it - if you didn't
like it well enough to want to describe it, maybe it's not good
enought to tell me about? But don't worry much about finding it -
given the title, I can take care of that.

Thanks,
<mike

[Dillinger von Tiegelhoff]

You are not missing much. they have something called "reality TV",
nowadays. Basically they are stupid shows that voyeur the problems in
the lives of the "beautiful people". The Eat meat masses soak it up.
Luckily, DVDs of cool shows are prevalent. stick to the classics, you're
better off.

[Mike Meyer]

Post by Dillinger von Tiegelhoff
Luckily, DVDs of cool shows are prevalent. stick to the classics, you're
better off.

Right. I'm trying to find the shows that were made between roughly
1970 and 2000 that qualify as "classics". Reality TV isn't that old.

<mike

[Sean]

Post by Mike Meyer
I pretty much quit watching TV in high school, and started watching
again recently due to a slump in high-tech contracting causing me to
need cheap entertainment. I found there were some pretty good
speculative fiction shows - much better than most of what I remembered
from the 60s and 70s - in reruns, and some currently airing.
Now I find myself in a place with a definite lack of channels - and
hence reruns. So I've started using netflix and torrents to find these
things.
Which leads to my question - what have I missed? What good speculative
fiction has been made since ST:TOS, and is currently available either
on DVD or via torrent? A short description and a note on where to find
it would be appreciated as well. Come to think of it - if you didn't
like it well enough to want to describe it, maybe it's not good
enought to tell me about? But don't worry much about finding it -
given the title, I can take care of that.
Thanks,
<mike

Stargate: SG1; Stargate: Atlantis; Battlestar Galactica

[BC]

Post by Sean

Post by Mike Meyer
I pretty much quit watching TV in high school, and started watching
again recently due to a slump in high-tech contracting causing me to
need cheap entertainment. I found there were some pretty good
speculative fiction shows - much better than most of what I remembered
from the 60s and 70s - in reruns, and some currently airing.
Now I find myself in a place with a definite lack of channels - and
hence reruns. So I've started using netflix and torrents to find these
things.
Which leads to my question - what have I missed? What good speculative
fiction has been made since ST:TOS, and is currently available either
on DVD or via torrent? A short description and a note on where to find
it would be appreciated as well. Come to think of it - if you didn't
like it well enough to want to describe it, maybe it's not good
enought to tell me about? But don't worry much about finding it -
given the title, I can take care of that.
Thanks,
<mike

Stargate: SG1; Stargate: Atlantis; Battlestar Galactica

In addition to those you could try the Sunday morning political interview
programs. They're usually speculative fiction. Bush's military records
were about time travel I believe.

Otherwise the new TV season should have some new Alien invasion stuff but
that will probably resemble a sophisticated car chase. You might try the
program LOST.

SMALLVILLE, even with some writing/plot problems occasionally, is about as
good as it gets. Buy the CD sets and catch up. For crime fiction I like
the CSI's and NUMBERS. For comedy/mystery there is very little that is
better than MONK.


BC

[C***@sctv.com]

Post by Mike Meyer
I pretty much quit watching TV in high school, and started watching
again recently due to a slump in high-tech contracting causing me to
need cheap entertainment. I found there were some pretty good
speculative fiction shows - much better than most of what I remembered
from the 60s and 70s - in reruns, and some currently airing.
Now I find myself in a place with a definite lack of channels - and
hence reruns. So I've started using netflix and torrents to find these
things.
Which leads to my question - what have I missed? What good speculative
fiction has been made since ST:TOS, and is currently available either
on DVD or via torrent? A short description and a note on where to find
it would be appreciated as well. Come to think of it - if you didn't
like it well enough to want to describe it, maybe it's not good
enought to tell me about? But don't worry much about finding it -
given the title, I can take care of that.

Just a question, when did you graduate from high school? I graduated
in 1970, and if you stopped watching in the '60s, then you have missed
a LOT!

[asjdlfkj]

Dude, have you been living in a cave?

They have an entire cable channel devoted to SciFi, though I think it's
either UK or Canadian owned.



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Post by asjdlfkj
Dude, have you been living in a cave?
They have an entire cable channel devoted to SciFi, though I think it's
either UK or Canadian owned.
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Yea, but most of the Sci-Fi channel really SUCKS!!!!!
And "their" own Sci-Fi movies SUCK 10 fold!!

We have been sold out to a bunch of stuffed suits who don't give a crap
about us or Science Fiction. All they know is how much money they can
make.
Which is not a bad thing but they should have writters who care about of
Sci-Fi
and not some so so writer who does not care either!

[asjdlfkj]

Post by Jack O'Neill
Yea, but most of the Sci-Fi channel really SUCKS!!!!!
And "their" own Sci-Fi movies SUCK 10 fold!!

Haha, and they repeat them over and over. Geez, how many times do we need to
see 'The Beast' (playing right now).

Or all those gawd-awful snake movies...



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Post by asjdlfkj

Post by Jack O'Neill
Yea, but most of the Sci-Fi channel really SUCKS!!!!!
And "their" own Sci-Fi movies SUCK 10 fold!!

Haha, and they repeat them over and over. Geez, how many times do we need to
see 'The Beast' (playing right now).
Or all those gawd-awful snake movies...
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And the same damn commercials for them 20 times in an hour show!!

[PPPG]

"asjdlfkj" <***@blahblah.com> wrote in message news:***@spool6-east.superfeed.net...

: They have an entire cable channel devoted to SciFi, though I think it's
: either UK or Canadian owned.

SciFi, also owned under the same parent (GE) NBC, USA, Bravo, Universal,
and a couple of others that slip my mind.

[PPPG]

"Mike Meyer" <***@mired.org> wrote in message news:***@bhuda.mired.org...

: Which leads to my question - what have I missed? What good speculative
: fiction has been made since ST:TOS, and is currently available either

If you've been out of the game since TOS, there are far too many to
mention, but a few, including some fantasy

Buffy The Vampire Slayer
Star Trek: The Next Generation
Star Trek Voyager
Star Trek Deep Space Nine
Star Trek Enterprise
Babylon 5
Sliders
Battlestar Gallactica (current version much better, IMHO)
Knight Rider
Invisible Man
Lost
Greatest American Hero
Twilight Zone (redone)
Outer Limits (redone)
Stargate SG1
Stargate Atlantis
Hercules
Xena
Tru Calling
X-Files
Roswell
Wonderfalls
Freaky Friday

The list goes ad infinitum. Note though, some titles were ... forgettable

[Mike Meyer]

Thanks to everyone who's replied so far. I've now got a nice list of
things to start looking for. Some of them I've heard of and forgotten,
some I have never heard of. Like I said, I've been hunting for things
in reruns over the last few years, so some of them I've already
seen - in very odd places.

Post by PPPG
Lost

Is that really speculative fiction? I watched the first few episodes,
and gave up on it. Did it get better?

Post by PPPG
X-Files

I know X-Files has major geek cred, and I'll probably get flayed alive
for saying so, but I was offended by it. I know I said "speculative
fiction", and it certainly qualifies as that. However, it is generally
tagged as science fiction, but it seems to primarily deal with
pseudo-science. If it had been tagged as fantasy, I probably would
have watched it. But - well, it wasn't. So I treated it the same way I
treat the pseudo-science crap that the SciFi channel has taken to
running.

<mike

[PPPG]

"Mike Meyer" <***@mired.org> wrote in message news:***@bhuda.mired.org...

: > Lost

: Is that really speculative fiction? I watched the first few episodes,
: and gave up on it. Did it get better?

I've been hooked since the first day. The only show in my 34 years I've
been hook to more was also a recent (figuratively speaking) show called
Buffy The Vampire Slayer. It just keeps getting better, IMHO. The DVD
comes out in a couple of weeks and while I suspect Netflix is qued to the Q
for a rental, I recommend trying to watch it again.

: > X-Files

: I know X-Files has major geek cred, and I'll probably get flayed alive
: for saying so, but I was offended by it. I know I said "speculative
: fiction"

Don't feel bad, I could never figure out what was so special about it.
About the 3rd season I got so sick of it and Scully with her usual, "But
Mulder, this can't be <insert alien/monster>. Here's my equally, if not
more so, convoluted excuse why." I swear, she had a greater imagination
for scientific excuses than McCoy had for sick bay cures!

: tagged as science fiction, but it seems to primarily deal with
: pseudo-science. If it had been tagged as fantasy, I probably would
: have watched it

I have no idea why, but many fantasy shows are labeled as Sci Fi. Many
occasions it can be sci-fi/fantasy, but I've started to look beyond what
it's labeled as and look to the show itself for a definition.

[..22..]

Post by PPPG
: > Lost
: Is that really speculative fiction? I watched the first few episodes,
: and gave up on it. Did it get better?
I've been hooked since the first day. The only show in my 34 years I've
been hook to more was also a recent (figuratively speaking) show called
Buffy The Vampire Slayer. It just keeps getting better, IMHO. The DVD
comes out in a couple of weeks and while I suspect Netflix is qued to the Q
for a rental, I recommend trying to watch it again.

I tried to watch it, it bored the hell out of me.
I couldn`t get into the story somehow, and after a couple
of episodes I just ditched it. (okay buffy hooked me too)

Post by PPPG
: > X-Files
: I know X-Files has major geek cred, and I'll probably get flayed alive
: for saying so, but I was offended by it. I know I said "speculative
: fiction"
Don't feel bad, I could never figure out what was so special about it.
About the 3rd season I got so sick of it and Scully with her usual, "But
Mulder, this can't be <insert alien/monster>. Here's my equally, if not
more so, convoluted excuse why." I swear, she had a greater imagination
for scientific excuses than McCoy had for sick bay cures!
: tagged as science fiction, but it seems to primarily deal with
: pseudo-science. If it had been tagged as fantasy, I probably would
: have watched it
I have no idea why, but many fantasy shows are labeled as Sci Fi. Many
occasions it can be sci-fi/fantasy, but I've started to look beyond what
it's labeled as and look to the show itself for a definition.
--
TTFN
Scott
Deaf Does NOT Equate Daft ... in other people's cases.
My DVD Collection: http://tinyurl.com/vcdt
GEORGIE PORGY Pudding and Pie,
Kissed the girls and made them cry.
And when the boys came out to play,
He kissed them too 'cause he was gay.

[PPPG]

"..22.." <***@request.rr> wrote in message news:430b101f$0$31682$***@dreader18.news.xs4all.nl...

: I tried to watch it, it bored the hell out of me.
: I couldn`t get into the story somehow, and after a couple
: of episodes I just ditched it. (okay buffy hooked me too)

I love Lost, but to each his or her own. I'm a self evowed Buffy-Slut,
though.

[David E. Milligan]

Post by PPPG
: Which leads to my question - what have I missed? What good speculative
: fiction has been made since ST:TOS, and is currently available either
If you've been out of the game since TOS, there are far too many to
mention, but a few, including some fantasy
Buffy The Vampire Slayer
Star Trek: The Next Generation
Star Trek Voyager
Star Trek Deep Space Nine
Star Trek Enterprise
Babylon 5
Sliders
Battlestar Gallactica (current version much better, IMHO)
Knight Rider
Invisible Man
Lost
Greatest American Hero
Twilight Zone (redone)
Outer Limits (redone)
Stargate SG1
Stargate Atlantis
Hercules
Xena
Tru Calling
X-Files
Roswell
Wonderfalls
Freaky Friday
The list goes ad infinitum. Note though, some titles were ... forgettable

Don't forget Farscape

[David Chapman]

Post by David E. Milligan

Post by PPPG
If you've been out of the game since TOS, there are far too many to
mention, but a few, including some fantasy

<snip list>

Post by David E. Milligan

Post by PPPG
The list goes ad infinitum. Note though, some titles were ... forgettable

Don't forget Farscape

Why not? I wish *I* could.

[..22..]

Post by David Chapman

Post by David E. Milligan

Post by PPPG
If you've been out of the game since TOS, there are far too many to
mention, but a few, including some fantasy

<snip list>

Post by David E. Milligan

Post by PPPG
The list goes ad infinitum. Note though, some titles were ... forgettable

Don't forget Farscape

Why not? I wish *I* could.

Take a big rubber hammer,....... 'o)

Post by David Chapman
Who the f--k are you calling insolent?

[PPPG]

"David Chapman" <***@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht news:i5WdnZ2dnZ2E8b-***@pipex.net...

: : Don't forget Farscape

: Why not? I wish *I* could.

<Pulling Rygel's finger finger> ;-)

[PPPG]

"David E. Milligan" <***@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:GSvOe.32348$***@bignews5.bellsouth.net...

: Don't forget Farscape

Shame on me!

[Robert]

Can't believe you listed Buffy without mentioning Angel.
Also, my favorite series of all time, Farscape.

Post by PPPG
: Which leads to my question - what have I missed? What good speculative
: fiction has been made since ST:TOS, and is currently available either
If you've been out of the game since TOS, there are far too many to
mention, but a few, including some fantasy
Buffy The Vampire Slayer
Star Trek: The Next Generation
Star Trek Voyager
Star Trek Deep Space Nine
Star Trek Enterprise
Babylon 5
Sliders
Battlestar Gallactica (current version much better, IMHO)
Knight Rider
Invisible Man
Lost
Greatest American Hero
Twilight Zone (redone)
Outer Limits (redone)
Stargate SG1
Stargate Atlantis
Hercules
Xena
Tru Calling
X-Files
Roswell
Wonderfalls
Freaky Friday
The list goes ad infinitum. Note though, some titles were ... forgettable
--
TTFN
Scott
Deaf Does NOT Equate Daft ... in other people's cases.
My DVD Collection: http://tinyurl.com/vcdt
GEORGIE PORGY Pudding and Pie,
Kissed the girls and made them cry.
And when the boys came out to play,
He kissed them too 'cause he was gay.

[PPPG]

"Robert" <***@swbell.net> wrote in message news:ISMOe.900$***@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...

: > If you've been out of the game since TOS, there are far too many to
: > mention, but a few, including some fantasy

: Can't believe you listed Buffy without mentioning Angel.
: Also, my favorite series of all time, Farscape.

Don't forget I said there were far too many to mention, and this upcoming
season looks to a whopper in the sci-fi/fantasy department. I loved
Farscape, but if I missed any, good or bad, it would include hundreds of
titles. When your brain consists of an event horizon, it's hard to
remember them all, like Dead Like Me, Jeremiah, Spawn (adult/HBO), Alias,
Charmed, etc.

[..22..]

Post by PPPG
: > If you've been out of the game since TOS, there are far too many to
: > mention, but a few, including some fantasy
: Can't believe you listed Buffy without mentioning Angel.
: Also, my favorite series of all time, Farscape.
Don't forget I said there were far too many to mention, and this upcoming
season looks to a whopper in the sci-fi/fantasy department. I loved
Farscape, but if I missed any, good or bad, it would include hundreds of
titles. When your brain consists of an event horizon, it's hard to
remember them all, like Dead Like Me, Jeremiah, Spawn (adult/HBO), Alias,
Charmed, etc.

I still miss John Doe and Firefly, Firefly was hard to get into, at first
but
it grew on me. And then they cancelled it, I hate those buggers.

[PPPG]

"..22.." <***@request.rr> wrote in message news:430ba1cd$0$13278$***@dreader32.news.xs4all.nl...

: I still miss John Doe and Firefly, Firefly was hard to get into, at first
: but
: it grew on me. And then they cancelled it, I hate those buggers.

You know Firefly is running at 7pm (EDT) on Sci Fi and there are the DVD's,
right? Either way I liked John Doe. FOX has forgotten it's history. If
they didn't give X-Files, Married … With Children, among others a chance,
they never would have made it. Now if it isn't a rating winner out the
door, they cancel. Twits!

[Robert]

And don't forget Serenity is coming to theaters later this year. Anyone
remember American Gothic? One of my favorites.

Post by PPPG
: I still miss John Doe and Firefly, Firefly was hard to get into, at first
: but
: it grew on me. And then they cancelled it, I hate those buggers.
You know Firefly is running at 7pm (EDT) on Sci Fi and there are the DVD's,
right? Either way I liked John Doe. FOX has forgotten it's history. If
they didn't give X-Files, Married . With Children, among others a chance,
they never would have made it. Now if it isn't a rating winner out the
door, they cancel. Twits!
--
TTFN
Scott
Deaf Does NOT Equate Daft ... in other people's cases.
My DVD Collection: http://tinyurl.com/vcdt
George Carlin on Martha Stewart: "Boy, I feel a lot safer now that she's
behind bars. O.J. Simpson and Kobe Bryant are still walking around; Osama
Bin Laden too, but they take the one woman in America willing to cook,
clean, and work in the yard, and haul her ass off to jail."

[..22..]

Post by Robert
And don't forget Serenity is coming to theaters later this year.

it is? Hmm a bit of good news.

Post by Robert
Anyone remember American Gothic? One of my favorites.

[PPPG]

"..22.." <***@request.rr> wrote in message news:430c6ca4$0$1705$***@dreader26.news.xs4all.nl...

: > And don't forget Serenity is coming to theaters later this year.

: it is? Hmm a bit of good news.

Release dates: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379786/releaseinfo

COUNTRY DATE

UK 22 August 2005 (Edinburgh Film Festival)
Australia 29 September 2005
USA 30 September 2005
Netherlands 6 October 2005
Iceland 7 October 2005
UK 7 October 2005
Belgium 19 October 2005
France 19 October 2005
Italy 28 October 2005
Mexico 11 November 2005
Argentina 17 November 2005
Hungary 17 November 2005
Denmark 18 November 2005
Czech Republic 24 November 2005
Germany 24 November 2005
Finland 25 November 2005
Sweden 25 November 2005
Norway 2 December 2005

[..22..]

Post by PPPG
: > And don't forget Serenity is coming to theaters later this year.
: it is? Hmm a bit of good news.
Release dates: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379786/releaseinfo
COUNTRY DATE
UK 22 August 2005 (Edinburgh Film Festival)
Australia 29 September 2005
USA 30 September 2005
Netherlands 6 October 2005

Hmm still a while to go. But a week before that
I am going to dance my head of at a concert of the selecter
So a week later I probably need some sitting time ;o)

Post by PPPG
Iceland 7 October 2005
UK 7 October 2005
Belgium 19 October 2005
France 19 October 2005
Italy 28 October 2005
Mexico 11 November 2005
Argentina 17 November 2005
Hungary 17 November 2005
Denmark 18 November 2005
Czech Republic 24 November 2005
Germany 24 November 2005
Finland 25 November 2005
Sweden 25 November 2005
Norway 2 December 2005
--
TTFN
Scott
Deaf Does NOT Equate Daft ... in other people's cases.
My DVD Collection: http://tinyurl.com/vcdt
George Carlin on Martha Stewart: "Boy, I feel a lot safer now that she's
behind bars. O.J. Simpson and Kobe Bryant are still walking around; Osama
Bin Laden too, but they take the one woman in America willing to cook,
clean, and work in the yard, and haul her ass off to jail."

[PPPG]

"..22.." <***@request.rr> wrote in message news:430ca4d8$0$27260$***@dreader17.news.xs4all.nl...

: Hmm still a while to go. But a week before that
: I am going to dance my head of at a concert of the selecter
: So a week later I probably need some sitting time ;o)

Well, have fun, but don't lose your head! <insert groan here>

[PPPG]

"Robert" <***@swbell.net> wrote in message news:OrSOe.1016$***@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...

: And don't forget Serenity is coming to theaters later this year. Anyone
: remember American Gothic? One of my favorites.

I had forgotten about it until you mentioned, good show!

[..22..]

Post by PPPG
: I still miss John Doe and Firefly, Firefly was hard to get into, at first
: but
: it grew on me. And then they cancelled it, I hate those buggers.
You know Firefly is running at 7pm (EDT) on Sci Fi and there are the DVD's,
right?

No idear, I downloaded the series, so I have it laying around. ;o)

Post by PPPG
Either way I liked John Doe. FOX has forgotten it's history. If
they didn't give X-Files, Married … With Children, among others a chance,
they never would have made it. Now if it isn't a rating winner out the
door, they cancel. Twits!

yep I agree, quality is out the door.

Post by PPPG
--
TTFN
Scott
Deaf Does NOT Equate Daft ... in other people's cases.
My DVD Collection: http://tinyurl.com/vcdt
George Carlin on Martha Stewart: "Boy, I feel a lot safer now that she's
behind bars. O.J. Simpson and Kobe Bryant are still walking around; Osama
Bin Laden too, but they take the one woman in America willing to cook,
clean, and work in the yard, and haul her ass off to jail."

[PPPG]

"..22.." <***@request.rr> wrote in message news:430c6c7c$0$1705$***@dreader26.news.xs4all.nl...

: > You know Firefly is running at 7pm (EDT) on Sci Fi and there are the
: > DVD's, right?

: No idear, I downloaded the series, so I have it laying around. ;o)

It's also coming out as a movie next month, I tried a few times, I never
could get into it. The western drawl, I found ... off putting.

: yep I agree, quality is out the door.

For the nets … so far. I have cautious hopes for the new season, however
the cable and syndication market has a few good shows - present and past.

[..22..]

Post by PPPG
: > You know Firefly is running at 7pm (EDT) on Sci Fi and there are the
: > DVD's, right?
: No idear, I downloaded the series, so I have it laying around. ;o)
It's also coming out as a movie next month, I tried a few times, I never
could get into it. The western drawl, I found ... off putting.

Hmm at the beginning, me too, but after I got used to it, I really started
to like it, atleast not a SF series where spaceships are sqeeky clean,
and the language/conversations, sounded like they came from the UN
or some embassy. ;o)

Post by PPPG
: yep I agree, quality is out the door.
For the nets … so far. I have cautious hopes for the new season, however
the cable and syndication market has a few good shows - present and past.

If you find some gems, could you keep me informed.
I have no idear what to download anymore. They have solved that problem
by producing stuff that nobody wants to download ;o)
(I am in alt.tv.charmed, I just noticed that these messages are heavily
crossposted.)
Luckily Dr Who started on the BBC, the first ep, I thought oh no, living
plastic,
they are not going to do these cheesy episodes are they? And they didn`t,
luckily.
After the first episode it went a lot better.
(The sad thing in my country, one station airs stargate, and are so proud to
announce
that there are new episodes, I take a look, it were the episodes I
downloaded more
then 3 years ago, now that is how pathetic some stations are here. On the
other hand
another station, has the new Charmed eps within 2 to 3 months. It`s just the
managment
of the stations I guess.)

Post by PPPG
--
TTFN
Scott
Deaf Does NOT Equate Daft ... in other people's cases.
My DVD Collection: http://tinyurl.com/vcdt
George Carlin on Martha Stewart: "Boy, I feel a lot safer now that she's
behind bars. O.J. Simpson and Kobe Bryant are still walking around; Osama
Bin Laden too, but they take the one woman in America willing to cook,
clean, and work in the yard, and haul her ass off to jail."

[PPPG]

"..22.." <***@request.rr> wrote in message news:430ca765$0$27762$***@dreader17.news.xs4all.nl...

: > It's also coming out as a movie next month, I tried a few times, I
never
: > could get into it. The western drawl, I found ... off putting.

: Hmm at the beginning, me too, but after I got used to it, I really
started
: to like it, atleast not a SF series where spaceships are sqeeky clean,
: and the language/conversations, sounded like they came from the UN
or some embassy. ;o)

I did like that aspect, and MAYBE is the Western was consistant, but they
seemed to jump around like that, and frankly the characters just seemed too
... stupid ... to be able to manages even a water based, never mind space,
ship.

: If you find some gems, could you keep me informed.
: I have no idear what to download anymore. They have solved that problem
: by producing stuff that nobody wants to download ;o)

Look for Dead Like Me. I like it's quirky, by dry, humor. :-)

: (I am in alt.tv.charmed, I just noticed that these messages are heavily
: crossposted.)

That they are.

: Luckily Dr Who started on the BBC, the first ep, I thought oh no, living
: plastic,

I have no reason why, but I never really got into that show.

: (The sad thing in my country, one station airs stargate, and are so proud
to
: announce
: that there are new episodes, I take a look, it were the episodes I
: downloaded more
: then 3 years ago, now that is how pathetic some stations are here. On the
: other hand
: another station, has the new Charmed eps within 2 to 3 months. It`s just
the
: managment
: of the stations I guess.)

It's not the management as much as international rights. For instance
Charmed may have been sold for your country after just half a season from
WB, while it took Universal 3 seasons to sell, it over there.

[..22..]

Post by PPPG
: > It's also coming out as a movie next month, I tried a few times, I
never
: > could get into it. The western drawl, I found ... off putting.
: Hmm at the beginning, me too, but after I got used to it, I really
started
: to like it, atleast not a SF series where spaceships are sqeeky clean,
: and the language/conversations, sounded like they came from the UN
or some embassy. ;o)
I did like that aspect, and MAYBE is the Western was consistant, but they
seemed to jump around like that, and frankly the characters just seemed too
... stupid ... to be able to manages even a water based, never mind space,
ship.

yeah okay I like that, just like my games, I liked Elite (for the older die
hards
this name should ring a bell) but now we have things like freelancer (which
comes pretty close)
and X2 the threath which totally sucked, because I like to fly and shoot and
make some money,\
and in this game you have to set up an empire build thuis an that yuck.
So firefly was a series perfect for me.

Post by PPPG
: If you find some gems, could you keep me informed.
: I have no idear what to download anymore. They have solved that problem
: by producing stuff that nobody wants to download ;o)
Look for Dead Like Me. I like it's quirky, by dry, humor. :-)

Hmm was that that series where a girl died on a toilet bowl by a meteor?
because I know that one, and it is great, probably cancelled? Am I right?

Post by PPPG
: (I am in alt.tv.charmed, I just noticed that these messages are heavily
: crossposted.)
That they are.
: Luckily Dr Who started on the BBC, the first ep, I thought oh no, living
: plastic,
I have no reason why, but I never really got into that show.
: (The sad thing in my country, one station airs stargate, and are so proud
to
: announce
: that there are new episodes, I take a look, it were the episodes I
: downloaded more
: then 3 years ago, now that is how pathetic some stations are here. On the
: other hand
: another station, has the new Charmed eps within 2 to 3 months. It`s just
the
: managment
: of the stations I guess.)
It's not the management as much as international rights. For instance
Charmed may have been sold for your country after just half a season from
WB, while it took Universal 3 seasons to sell, it over there.

Wel I had downloaded it already, so if those companies get smart they sell
sooner.

Post by PPPG
TTFN
Scott
Deaf Does NOT Equate Daft ... in other people's cases.
My DVD Collection: http://tinyurl.com/vcdt
George Carlin on Martha Stewart: "Boy, I feel a lot safer now that she's
behind bars. O.J. Simpson and Kobe Bryant are still walking around; Osama
Bin Laden too, but they take the one woman in America willing to cook,
clean, and work in the yard, and haul her ass off to jail."

[PPPG]

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: yeah okay I like that, just like my games, I liked Elite (for the older
die
: hards
: this name should ring a bell) but now we have things like freelancer
(which
: comes pretty close)

My like for games ended when the games all required fighting of some sort.
I'm a King's Quest-style man, myself. The original came with my powerful
PCjr. ;-)

: Hmm was that that series where a girl died on a toilet bowl by a meteor?
: because I know that one, and it is great, probably cancelled? Am I right?

That was the one and it was just canceled by Showtime.

: Wel I had downloaded it already, so if those companies get smart they
sell
: sooner.

They probably will. More and more movies are opening world wide at the
same time to try and thwart bootlegs - TV will probably follow suit in the
future.

[Cardman]

Post by ..22..

Post by PPPG
Look for Dead Like Me. I like it's quirky, by dry, humor. :-)

Hmm was that that series where a girl died on a toilet bowl by a meteor?

No. She (Georgina Lass) was out on her lunch break on her first day of
work, where she was hit and killed by the toilet seat from the Mir
Space Station that had reentered the atmosphere and broke up. That is
why Mason in about the third episode called her Toilet Seat Girl.

Post by ..22..
because I know that one, and it is great,

Yes, a lot of funny scenes.

Like the bit when Mason is selling the Kitchen Guillotine. "It chops.
It slices. And it can also cut your f***ing hand off if you want it
to".

Post by ..22..
probably cancelled? Am I right?

Yes, it is cancelled. Two seasons done. They were hoping that one of
the cable networks would pick it up. No luck there. And soon enough
the contracts with their stars expired and they moved on to other
things.

Dead Like Me was one that I watched, but I never found it that great
of a series.

Cardman
http://www.cardman.com
http://www.cardman.co.uk

[PPPG]

"Cardman" <do-***@spam-me.com> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...

: >Hmm was that that series where a girl died on a toilet bowl by a meteor?
:
: No. She (Georgina Lass) was out on her lunch break on her first day of
: work, where she was hit and killed by the toilet seat from the Mir
: Space Station that had reentered the atmosphere and broke up. That is
: why Mason in about the third episode called her Toilet Seat Girl.

As a great American thinker once said, "D'OHH"; I should have caught the
semantics eror.

: Dead Like Me was one that I watched, but I never found it that great
: of a series.

I have no idea why, but the show just appealed to me.

[..22..]

Post by PPPG
: >Hmm was that that series where a girl died on a toilet bowl by a meteor?
: No. She (Georgina Lass) was out on her lunch break on her first day of
: work, where she was hit and killed by the toilet seat from the Mir
: Space Station that had reentered the atmosphere and broke up. That is
: why Mason in about the third episode called her Toilet Seat Girl.
As a great American thinker once said, "D'OHH"; I should have caught the
semantics eror.
: Dead Like Me was one that I watched, but I never found it that great
: of a series.
I have no idea why, but the show just appealed to me

To me too, don`t feel ashamed for it. ;o)
I liked the humor, sorry to hear another show I like stopped.
I must stop liking shows, it`s their death ;o)

Post by PPPG
--
TTFN
Scott
Deaf Does NOT Equate Daft ... in other people's cases.
My DVD Collection: http://tinyurl.com/vcdt
George Carlin on Martha Stewart: "Boy, I feel a lot safer now that she's
behind bars. O.J. Simpson and Kobe Bryant are still walking around; Osama
Bin Laden too, but they take the one woman in America willing to cook,
clean, and work in the yard, and haul her ass off to jail."

[PPPG]

"..22.." <***@request.rr> wrote in message news:430f08a5$0$5766$***@dreader10.news.xs4all.nl...

: > : Dead Like Me was one that I watched, but I never found it that great
: > : of a series.

: > I have no idea why, but the show just appealed to me

: To me too, don`t feel ashamed for it. ;o)

Oh I don't. I'm just saying I can't pinpoint an exact reason. For
Instance Smallvillie because I'm a Supes fan, Buffy writing and acting,
Monk Humor, writing and the who-done-it aspect, etc.

[..22..]

Post by PPPG
: > : Dead Like Me was one that I watched, but I never found it that great
: > : of a series.
: > I have no idea why, but the show just appealed to me
: To me too, don`t feel ashamed for it. ;o)
Oh I don't. I'm just saying I can't pinpoint an exact reason.

neah, it`s al in the mix I guess.

Post by PPPG
For
Instance Smallvillie because I'm a Supes fan,

I liked souperman too, I even liked lois and clark, but smallville?
Nope couldn`t get into it, I wish I could but I couldn`t

Post by PPPG
Buffy writing and acting,

I liked Buffy for the humor, it was a great mix of horor and humor
and especially the hihschool scene felt real.

Post by PPPG
Monk Humor, writing and the who-done-it aspect, etc.

Yeah Monk is great, it softened the blow of loosing John Doe.
Pretender, john Doe and Monk i share under the same "know it all" characters
the plus with Monk is the humor of the situations.

[PPPG]

"..22.." <***@request.rr> wrote in message news:430f217d$0$899$***@dreader30.news.xs4all.nl...

: I liked superman too, I even liked lois and clark, but smallville?
: Nope couldn`t get into it, I wish I could but I couldn`t

I had trouble with Tom Welling looking so bloody old, but I started to
attribute that to Kryptonian ageing differences. However from the get-go
I've taken this series as a giant "What If?"

: Yeah Monk is great, it softened the blow of loosing John Doe.
: Pretender, john Doe and Monk i share under the same "know it all"
characters
: the plus with Monk is the humor of the situations.

Monk I always laugh at. I love it when he looks closer and closer to
having a stroke because he doesn't have a wipe handy.

[EBRENT PRICE]

Post by Mike Meyer
I pretty much quit watching TV in high school, and started watching
again recently due to a slump in high-tech contracting causing me to
need cheap entertainment. I found there were some pretty good
speculative fiction shows - much better than most of what I remembered
from the 60s and 70s - in reruns, and some currently airing.
Now I find myself in a place with a definite lack of channels - and
hence reruns. So I've started using netflix and torrents to find these
things.
Which leads to my question - what have I missed? What good speculative
fiction has been made since ST:TOS, and is currently available either
on DVD or via torrent? A short description and a note on where to find
it would be appreciated as well. Come to think of it - if you didn't
like it well enough to want to describe it, maybe it's not good
enought to tell me about? But don't worry much about finding it -
given the title, I can take care of that.
Thanks,
<mike
--
Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information.

Let's not forget Doctor Who. You might have even seen some on PBS way back
then. It has just finished up it's first season after being gone for years.
The cheesy special effects are gone, but they left enough cheese to make it
entertaining and a real hoot. I had to get it all by torrents since nobody
is showing it in the US (Canada has it.) Hopefully the DVDs are coming.

E. Brent Price

[..22..]

Post by Mike Meyer

Post by Mike Meyer
I pretty much quit watching TV in high school, and started watching
again recently due to a slump in high-tech contracting causing me to
need cheap entertainment. I found there were some pretty good
speculative fiction shows - much better than most of what I remembered
from the 60s and 70s - in reruns, and some currently airing.
Now I find myself in a place with a definite lack of channels - and
hence reruns. So I've started using netflix and torrents to find these
things.
Which leads to my question - what have I missed? What good speculative
fiction has been made since ST:TOS, and is currently available either
on DVD or via torrent? A short description and a note on where to find
it would be appreciated as well. Come to think of it - if you didn't
like it well enough to want to describe it, maybe it's not good
enought to tell me about? But don't worry much about finding it -
given the title, I can take care of that.
Thanks,
<mike
--
Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more

information.
Let's not forget Doctor Who. You might have even seen some on PBS way back
then. It has just finished up it's first season after being gone for years.
The cheesy special effects are gone, but they left enough cheese to make it
entertaining and a real hoot. I had to get it all by torrents since nobody
is showing it in the US (Canada has it.) Hopefully the DVDs are coming.

Hmm I have seen on the BBC that they brought them out already, but they are
probably PAL.
They probably wait to bring them out in NTSC when they aired them in the
states. I guess.

Post by Mike Meyer
E. Brent Price

[EBRENT PRICE]

Post by ..22..

Post by EBRENT PRICE
Let's not forget Doctor Who. You might have even seen some on PBS way back
then. It has just finished up it's first season after being gone for years.
The cheesy special effects are gone, but they left enough cheese to make it
entertaining and a real hoot. I had to get it all by torrents since nobody
is showing it in the US (Canada has it.) Hopefully the DVDs are coming.

Hmm I have seen on the BBC that they brought them out already, but they are
probably PAL.
They probably wait to bring them out in NTSC when they aired them in the
states. I guess.

Yes, the DVDs are out over there but not here. I'm actually thinking of
getting a multi-regional player to avoid this in the future. Torrents vary
in quality and are legally questionable. I tolerate them only for things
the powers that be refuse to make available to me legally. Who knows when
or if Who makes it to the US. (Really. He does.:)

E. Brent Price

[PettyFan]

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 15:31:49 GMT, "EBRENT PRICE"

Post by EBRENT PRICE

Post by ..22..

Post by EBRENT PRICE
Let's not forget Doctor Who. You might have even seen some on PBS way back
then. It has just finished up it's first season after being gone for years.
The cheesy special effects are gone, but they left enough cheese to make it
entertaining and a real hoot. I had to get it all by torrents since nobody
is showing it in the US (Canada has it.) Hopefully the DVDs are coming.

Hmm I have seen on the BBC that they brought them out already, but they

are

Post by ..22..
probably PAL.
They probably wait to bring them out in NTSC when they aired them in the
states. I guess.

Yes, the DVDs are out over there but not here. I'm actually thinking of
getting a multi-regional player to avoid this in the future. Torrents vary
in quality and are legally questionable. I tolerate them only for things
the powers that be refuse to make available to me legally. Who knows when
or if Who makes it to the US. (Really. He does.:)
E. Brent Price

legally questionable? thats funny! in the usa its not legal. im sure
the rest of the world also.

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Post by PettyFan
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 15:31:49 GMT, "EBRENT PRICE"

Post by EBRENT PRICE

Post by ..22..

Post by EBRENT PRICE
Let's not forget Doctor Who. You might have even seen some on PBS

way

Post by PettyFan

Post by EBRENT PRICE

Post by ..22..

Post by EBRENT PRICE
back
then. It has just finished up it's first season after being gone for years.
The cheesy special effects are gone, but they left enough cheese to

make

Post by PettyFan

Post by EBRENT PRICE

Post by ..22..

Post by EBRENT PRICE
it
entertaining and a real hoot. I had to get it all by torrents since nobody
is showing it in the US (Canada has it.) Hopefully the DVDs are coming.

Hmm I have seen on the BBC that they brought them out already, but they

are

Post by ..22..
probably PAL.
They probably wait to bring them out in NTSC when they aired them in the
states. I guess.

Yes, the DVDs are out over there but not here. I'm actually thinking of
getting a multi-regional player to avoid this in the future. Torrents vary
in quality and are legally questionable. I tolerate them only for things
the powers that be refuse to make available to me legally. Who knows when
or if Who makes it to the US. (Really. He does.:)
E. Brent Price

legally questionable? thats funny! in the usa its not legal. im sure
the rest of the world also.

Yeah, I'm a real funny guy.

E. Brent Price

[PettyFan]

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:02:42 GMT, "EBRENT PRICE"

Post by EBRENT PRICE

Post by PettyFan
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 15:31:49 GMT, "EBRENT PRICE"

Post by EBRENT PRICE

Post by ..22..

Post by EBRENT PRICE
Let's not forget Doctor Who. You might have even seen some on PBS

way

Post by PettyFan

Post by EBRENT PRICE

Post by ..22..

Post by EBRENT PRICE
back
then. It has just finished up it's first season after being gone for years.
The cheesy special effects are gone, but they left enough cheese to

make

Post by PettyFan

Post by EBRENT PRICE

Post by ..22..

Post by EBRENT PRICE
it
entertaining and a real hoot. I had to get it all by torrents since nobody
is showing it in the US (Canada has it.) Hopefully the DVDs are

coming.

Post by PettyFan

Post by EBRENT PRICE

Post by ..22..
Hmm I have seen on the BBC that they brought them out already, but they

are

Post by ..22..
probably PAL.
They probably wait to bring them out in NTSC when they aired them in

the

Post by PettyFan

Post by EBRENT PRICE

Post by ..22..
states. I guess.

Yes, the DVDs are out over there but not here. I'm actually thinking of
getting a multi-regional player to avoid this in the future. Torrents

vary

Post by PettyFan

Post by EBRENT PRICE
in quality and are legally questionable. I tolerate them only for things
the powers that be refuse to make available to me legally. Who knows

when

Post by PettyFan

Post by EBRENT PRICE
or if Who makes it to the US. (Really. He does.:)
E. Brent Price

legally questionable? thats funny! in the usa its not legal. im sure
the rest of the world also.

Yeah, I'm a real funny guy.
E. Brent Price

was not attacking ya sorry if u thought i was
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Post by PettyFan
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:02:42 GMT, "EBRENT PRICE"

Post by EBRENT PRICE

Post by PettyFan
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 15:31:49 GMT, "EBRENT PRICE"

Post by EBRENT PRICE

Post by ..22..

Post by EBRENT PRICE
Let's not forget Doctor Who. You might have even seen some on PBS

way

Post by PettyFan

Post by EBRENT PRICE

Post by ..22..

Post by EBRENT PRICE
back
then. It has just finished up it's first season after being gone

for

Post by PettyFan

Post by EBRENT PRICE

Post by PettyFan

Post by EBRENT PRICE

Post by ..22..

Post by EBRENT PRICE
years.
The cheesy special effects are gone, but they left enough cheese to

make

Post by PettyFan

Post by EBRENT PRICE

Post by ..22..

Post by EBRENT PRICE
it
entertaining and a real hoot. I had to get it all by torrents

since

Post by PettyFan

Post by EBRENT PRICE

Post by PettyFan

Post by EBRENT PRICE

Post by ..22..

Post by EBRENT PRICE
nobody
is showing it in the US (Canada has it.) Hopefully the DVDs are

coming.

Post by PettyFan

Post by EBRENT PRICE

Post by ..22..
Hmm I have seen on the BBC that they brought them out already, but they

are

Post by ..22..
probably PAL.
They probably wait to bring them out in NTSC when they aired them in

the

Post by PettyFan

Post by EBRENT PRICE

Post by ..22..
states. I guess.

Yes, the DVDs are out over there but not here. I'm actually thinking of
getting a multi-regional player to avoid this in the future. Torrents

vary

Post by PettyFan

Post by EBRENT PRICE
in quality and are legally questionable. I tolerate them only for things
the powers that be refuse to make available to me legally. Who knows

when

Post by PettyFan

Post by EBRENT PRICE
or if Who makes it to the US. (Really. He does.:)
E. Brent Price

legally questionable? thats funny! in the usa its not legal. im sure
the rest of the world also.

Yeah, I'm a real funny guy.
E. Brent Price

was not attacking ya sorry if u thought i was

Sorry I misunderstood. No problem.

E. Brent Price

[..22..]

Post by PettyFan
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 15:31:49 GMT, "EBRENT PRICE"

Post by EBRENT PRICE

Post by ..22..

Post by EBRENT PRICE
Let's not forget Doctor Who. You might have even seen some on PBS way back
then. It has just finished up it's first season after being gone for years.
The cheesy special effects are gone, but they left enough cheese to
make
it
entertaining and a real hoot. I had to get it all by torrents since nobody
is showing it in the US (Canada has it.) Hopefully the DVDs are coming.

Hmm I have seen on the BBC that they brought them out already, but they

are

Post by ..22..
probably PAL.
They probably wait to bring them out in NTSC when they aired them in the
states. I guess.

Yes, the DVDs are out over there but not here. I'm actually thinking of
getting a multi-regional player to avoid this in the future. Torrents vary
in quality and are legally questionable. I tolerate them only for things
the powers that be refuse to make available to me legally. Who knows when
or if Who makes it to the US. (Really. He does.:)
E. Brent Price

legally questionable? thats funny! in the usa its not legal. im sure
the rest of the world also.

Actually, in my country downloading movies/music (for your own use)
is totally legal, before you could even tape/download it for others, but
euro legislation has stopped that. So only for your own use and you have
to download it yourself, it is legal, that is due to the old copy laws from
way back
when Videotapes and cassettetapes where here. Only uploading is illegal
(without the consent of the copyrightholder ofcourse).
So bittorrents work by uploading too so that part would be illegal, not
the downloading part of it. (the Netherlands)

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"..22.." <***@request.rr> wrote in message news:430b8db4$0$1248$***@dreader31.news.xs4all.nl...

: Only uploading is illegal
: (without the consent of the copyrightholder ofcourse).
: So bittorrents work by uploading too so that part would be illegal, not
: the downloading part of it. (the Netherlands)

Now THAT sounds like government! "You can eat that carrot, but you can't
pick it!"

[..22..]

Post by PPPG
: Only uploading is illegal
: (without the consent of the copyrightholder ofcourse).
: So bittorrents work by uploading too so that part would be illegal, not
: the downloading part of it. (the Netherlands)
Now THAT sounds like government! "You can eat that carrot, but you can't
pick it!"

well, from newsgroups you can download without uploading, for the
ones who want to stay totally within the laws.
Or those programs who search the streaming radiostations for certain songs
which you can then download.
So atleast they can`t get you for owning downloaded songs/movies.

[±© Flipper Mike ®³]

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