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Another loose End?
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Ron Hubbard
2005-05-23 08:50:57 UTC
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I really should have taped both parts of the finale one after the other
because I got a bit side-tracked between one and the other. In part one,
the big deal was dealing with the Magog worldship.

Okay, they defeated the Abyss in part two, and presumably the
Nietcheans, but what became of the Magog buggers? And BTW, how did
Rhade come to think that his family was dead
in the first place? I don't remember any episode with them in it.

Ron
Aldous Qum
2005-05-23 15:40:43 UTC
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Magog worldship-trance nuked it at he end of season four and seriously
damaged it. They said only four days had passed in the "real" universe
since they had met it at Arkology, so the Worldship had little time to
effect repairs on itself before round two. This time it got skagged
coming through the route of ages, along with the Abyss itself. But, can
you destroy something like the Abyss, anyway?
NobodyMan
2005-05-23 23:34:30 UTC
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Post by Aldous Qum
Magog worldship-trance nuked it at he end of season four and seriously
damaged it. They said only four days had passed in the "real" universe
since they had met it at Arkology, so the Worldship had little time to
effect repairs on itself before round two. This time it got skagged
coming through the route of ages, along with the Abyss itself. But, can
you destroy something like the Abyss, anyway?
They dropped the entire Magog and Worldship issue very early in the
first part of the sequel, and you never heard of it again. Instead we
have the Nietzcheans attacking the Andromeda and Terazed.

However, as the Abyss was God to the Magog, and the Abyss is now
destroyed, the Magog are probably not a factor anymore?

Where do you get that the Worldship "got skagged coming through the
Route of Ages"? We never saw the worldship, not once, during the
entire last season, let alone the last two episodes. Further, the
Abyss didn't get harmed coming through the Route of Ages - Trance's
sun took care of old Mr. Abyss.
mike
2005-05-24 01:37:42 UTC
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EBRENT PRICE
2005-05-24 18:27:07 UTC
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Post by mike
Post by Aldous Qum
Magog worldship-trance nuked it at he end of season four and seriously
Post by Aldous Qum
damaged it. They said only four days had passed in the "real" universe
since they had met it at Arkology, so the Worldship had little time to
effect repairs on itself before round two. This time it got skagged
coming through the route of ages, along with the Abyss itself. But, can
you destroy something like the Abyss, anyway?
Where do you get that the Worldship "got skagged coming through the
Route of Ages"? We never saw the worldship, not once, during the
entire last season, let alone the last two episodes. Further, the
Abyss didn't get harmed coming through the Route of Ages - Trance's
sun took care of old Mr. Abyss.
Hey, at least it's a -story-. It's more well-thought-out than the show. If
someone want's to post something about how Lexa's boobs hypnotize the
Nieztcheans into behaving, I'm fine with it. Didn't you love the scene
where all the Trances form a girl-group and get played on Virgil Vox's
show? Knocked 50-cent right off the charts.
Possible spinoff plot: wacky, evolved Magogs move next door to normal
family, adopt 2 vedran kids from the route.
And speaking of which, whatever happened to those "evolved" Magog that Rev
Bem raised to retain the memories and personalities of thier hosts?

Magog vs Magog = at least as good as dwarf-throwing.

E. Brent Price
Aldous Qum
2005-05-24 05:21:43 UTC
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"They dropped the entire Magog and Worldship issue very early in the
first part of the sequel, and you never heard of it again. Instead we
have the Nietzcheans attacking the Andromeda and Terazed.
However, as the Abyss was God to the Magog, and the Abyss is now
destroyed, the Magog are probably not a factor anymore?
Where do you get that the Worldship "got skagged coming through the
Route of Ages"? We never saw the worldship, not once, during the entire
last season, let alone the last two episodes. Further, the Abyss didn't
get harmed coming through the Route of Ages - Trance's sun took care of
old Mr. Abyss."

The Worldship was one tough cookie, The first time they tried to destroy
it, they nova bombed it, the second time Trance supernuked it and it was
still there. It seemed to be kind of like the Abyss's "place of
strength". As to the "proof" of the worlldship getting wasted, well, as
with so much in Andromeda, that plolline is unfinished and unseen, but
it seems logical. Where the Abyss goes, the worldship was never far
away. An assault on Tarn Vedra was logical and the Nietzcheans were but
a diversion for the real fight where the Abyss would need its most
devout followers, the Magog. As to the Abyss not being destroyed by the
Route of Ages, it probably had something to do with its demise.
I don't think Trance's sun alone could have finished it off. That had
already been tried at the end of season four, at Arkology. The
confluence of forces involving the Route and trances sun may have been
the formula for the Abyss's final annihilation.
Rick Massey
2005-05-24 05:51:59 UTC
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Mark Brown
2005-05-24 13:02:41 UTC
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Post by Rick Massey
Here's a question, while we're talking about dropped threads. I'm Blind,
so I didn't get to see the end of the episode where this happened, but I
seem to remember Beka getting a bell that dispels the Abyss in the episode
with the VR library. Unless that bell got nuked at the end of that
episode, it's still in Beka's stuff, and I can't believe that they'd give
her such a strong weapon against the Abyss and not even reference it
again.
*SNIP*

Believe it.

Mark
"Continuity? What continuity?"
Ron Hubbard
2005-05-25 02:42:09 UTC
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Post by Rick Massey
Here's a question, while we're talking about dropped threads. I'm Blind, so
I didn't get to see the end of the episode where this happened, but I seem
to remember Beka getting a bell that dispels the Abyss in the episode with
the VR library. Unless that bell got nuked at the end of that episode, it's
still in Beka's stuff, and I can't believe that they'd give her such a
strong weapon against the Abyss and not even reference it again.
Well, they did, Rick. They dropped that idea right after that
episode aired and it was never mentioned or thought of again-- except by
us people who watched the show, of course.

Ron

NobodyMan
2005-05-25 00:10:09 UTC
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Post by Aldous Qum
"They dropped the entire Magog and Worldship issue very early in the
first part of the sequel, and you never heard of it again. Instead we
have the Nietzcheans attacking the Andromeda and Terazed.
However, as the Abyss was God to the Magog, and the Abyss is now
destroyed, the Magog are probably not a factor anymore?
Where do you get that the Worldship "got skagged coming through the
Route of Ages"? We never saw the worldship, not once, during the entire
last season, let alone the last two episodes. Further, the Abyss didn't
get harmed coming through the Route of Ages - Trance's sun took care of
old Mr. Abyss."
The Worldship was one tough cookie, The first time they tried to destroy
it, they nova bombed it, the second time Trance supernuked it and it was
still there.
Yes, it survived the first assault on it (the Nova bomb). We know
this as it is seen again. We have no idea that it survived the second
attempt, other than one brief statement in the next-to-last episode -
but we never see the Worldship, and it definetly never was seen
cruising through, or even emerging from, the route of ages.
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